| Paulette Mangold | 11/20/2001 | 8:44:25 PM | Good |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:44:31 PM | I'm anxious for t-giving break! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:44:59 PM | How is my favorite class? |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/20/2001 | 8:45:02 PM | Me too, I need the mental health break. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:45:17 PM | I need to time to catch up. |
| Jennifer Nelson | 11/20/2001 | 8:45:34 PM | hello |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 8:45:39 PM | Fine now that all the confusion has passed. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:45:50 PM | Hi Jenn |
| doug greenway | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:11 PM | hello everyone |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:13 PM | Hey, I think I'm finally in! |
| Jennifer Nelson | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:13 PM | Hello amd I late arriving? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:25 PM | Okay gang, onelogistical note before we get started . . . |
| Sandy Nightingale | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:41 PM | HI! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:41 PM | No Jenn, we had a start-up glitch |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/20/2001 | 8:46:41 PM | yeah Lisa |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:08 PM | When were we to have read the Hardware Audit and Software and Website Evaluation sections and their associated readings by? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:12 PM | You all will be taking at least lt 731, multimedia from USD, have you signed up? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:38 PM | not yet |
| Cindy Rall | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:44 PM | not yet |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:45 PM | not yet |
| Sandy Nightingale | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:53 PM | Not yet |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 8:47:53 PM | yes, will there be a site in the west for us folks or will we have to drive to USD? |
| Heidi Noem | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:10 PM | I tried, got an error, haven't heard back from USD |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:15 PM | Okay, get it done, contact Dawn Hamilton as DSU and register. |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:17 PM | ok Marcia what are you talking about |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:31 PM | You'll be registered and the course instructor, Ray Thompson will contect you. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:36 PM | where do we go to sign up? |
| doug greenway | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:44 PM | Mark, could you send the link out in a email please |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:59 PM | ok, see it above. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:48:59 PM | I'm hoping that Ray can make it to you for the west river folks |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:49:13 PM | We're going to try to support him for that |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 8:49:33 PM | Is there an on-line registration like there was last time? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:49:34 PM | There will be a few hands-on lab sessions for the class |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:04 PM | So it'll be partly on-line and partly in person? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:11 PM | Yes there is and I think that I'm registered |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:11 PM | No Lisa, you will have to email dawn.hamilton@dsu.edu and have her register you, as a DIAL student for the lt 731 class. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:23 PM | Right Sandy. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:34 PM | Am I finally in? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:38 PM | Oops thinking about another class, sorry |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:38 PM | ok, and I assume that's how we'd register for the other classes also? |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:43 PM | hi, bruce |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:50:55 PM | Now, you may also choose to take an elective next semester, go to the distance education web site and register there. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 8:51:00 PM | Hi. Nice to be here. About to give up. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 8:51:11 PM | ok, thanks Mark. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:51:20 PM | Only use Dawn to register for the USD class, LT731--multimedia production |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 8:51:36 PM | Did Dano or you come up with any online offerings? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:51:53 PM | Glad you made it Bruce. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 8:52:01 PM | I sent the form back to Dawn signed. When will I get confirmation that its been received and that I will be in the class? |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 8:52:30 PM | So Mark, I am wondering about the assignment you sent out today. Do you want us to powt our entire reaction on the web board at once or can we interact over pieces of the article? |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/20/2001 | 8:52:45 PM | hi |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:52:57 PM | talked to Mike Hoadley at Vermillion Fri and saw Ray, but didn't talk to him. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:53:19 PM | Yes Cliff, there is CET 740 Systems theory in distributed (distance) education, and CET 769 Adult learning in distance education which we are planning to pipe over the DDN to a few interest folks in Mitchell and one person in Winner. Sign up for those classes at the Distance education web site. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:53:26 PM | Hi Tricia, thansk for being persistant |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:53:57 PM | Okay, about your evaluation plans. . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:54:53 PM | Cliff asked when the final pieces are due. Well, you are to turn in the final version of the plan, on Dec. 6 or something like that, so you should have the readings covered by the end of the month |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:55:05 PM | First, the hardware audit. |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:55:22 PM | good was wondering about that |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:55:31 PM | One of the basic assumptions we make when working in a technology environment is that the technology is sufficient for the learning goals. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:55:34 PM | It often is not. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:55:48 PM | Your job is to plan into your evaluation a technology audit. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:56:14 PM | That is, a process for looking at the goals and seeing if the available technology can at all feasibly address those goals. |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:56:21 PM | so the hardware audit is not an individual one, but with the team |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:56:24 PM | The readings give you some good guidance. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 8:56:39 PM | Mark, is a technology audit the same as an inventory? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:56:52 PM | The hardware audit is a component of your evaluation plan |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 8:56:56 PM | In the samples, it looks more like an inventory. |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 8:57:04 PM | How do you audit intangibles like attitude and willingness? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:57:17 PM | You should have a question in your key questions, you shouljd have a questions that deals specifically with that, a few of you do already. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:57:24 PM | Those that don't will add one. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 8:57:38 PM | Mark, may we base the audit on the CEO Forum star chart and use a rubric to evaluate the school district's technology use? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:57:40 PM | An inventory would be a good word Bruce |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 8:57:49 PM | wouldn't the audit be how accessible the technology is and how is it being used? Also how many computers there per students? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:58:12 PM | I don't think you can audit those kinds of things Cliff--so, we're jsut sticking with the technology |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 8:58:43 PM | So do we need to establish some kind of benchmarks based onteh goals in order to do this? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:58:45 PM | No Rose, we simply want to know if there's sufficinet technology to meet hte learning goals. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:59:03 PM | I gues you would, it will depend gretly on your environment. |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/20/2001 | 8:59:29 PM | So Marcia's plan to use the star chart is ggod? |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/20/2001 | 8:59:38 PM | ...good.. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 8:59:51 PM | You should stutter when you say god. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 8:59:53 PM | But if a district says in a technology plan that it will deploy interactive video to bring external sources to student learners, and then doesn't have the dedicated ITV system, that's a problem you want to detect right away. |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:00:08 PM | is there another chart that could be used with the star chart |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:00:21 PM | A couple of folks are using the Star Chart as a diagnostic, sure, it's fine. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:01:19 PM | But, you should look at the learning goals of the organization your developing the evaluation plan for, and simple ask yourself what kind of tehcnology it will takle to meet these goals, and see if the inventory matches your needs list. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:01:31 PM | We'll consider you the expert in this process. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:01:53 PM | So it could be a simple process? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:02:15 PM | The audit shouldn't be more than a page or two, but it will include destops, peripherals, and other technologies |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:02:21 PM | Does an audit include recommendations? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:02:29 PM | Very simple, but essential, and a good place to start with the evaluation. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:02:56 PM | No Bruce, only to say that key peices of technology seem to be absent. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:03:15 PM | A summary statement of the audit might say something like . . . |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:03:53 PM | hello? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:03:54 PM | I need some clarification on this. Is this still with our team members or is it individual? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:03:56 PM | "the audit reveals a student to computer ratio that is inconsistant with the access goals of the school. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:04:20 PM | This is part of you evaluation plan Rose, so your working with your team. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:04:44 PM | Cliff, we're still here, are you? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:04:46 PM | Am I jinixng the netmeeting? Everyone seems to be going off |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:04:57 PM | Does this notion of a technology audit make sense? |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:05:01 PM | In order to be on track schedule wise, how soon should we have hardware audit done? |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:05:05 PM | Seem to be a few people dropping out... |
| Cindy Rall | 11/20/2001 | 9:05:07 PM | So do we need to develop a plan for the audit or actually do it? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:05:34 PM | IN the next few days Bruce, |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:05:57 PM | What happened to Thanksgiving vacation!? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:06:11 PM | It's going to be hard to find times we can work together during Thanksgiving break |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/20/2001 | 9:06:14 PM | I'm...fading...Rose...can't... Stay...Online... |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 9:06:16 PM | Now, Bruce. Be Thankful! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:06:19 PM | We're jsut in the planning stage Cindy, none of your evaluation plan will be executed until you have support and buyin from the admininstration, and you'll get that after your plan is complete--after the class |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/20/2001 | 9:06:38 PM | WooHoo! |
| Cindy Rall | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:05 PM | ok sorry i was just confused as to whether we need a summary statement sorry |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:07 PM | Hypothetically, it would already be done and in the Technology Coordinator's office (Technology Inventory) |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:09 PM | Okay, just make sure it's done by the time you tuen in your final plan. It will be one of the easier parts of the evaluation. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:40 PM | I will be thankful for easy. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:46 PM | How about the software audit? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:47 PM | So Mark -- to see if I understand -- we look at the districts goals, look at their inventory to see if they have the hardware to accomplish the goals and point out what may be missing or needed to accomplish the goals? |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:07:47 PM | So how should we evaluate websites and software? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:08:02 PM | True Cliff--in a well balanced world, there are some technology plans that include purchases, you job is to double check that it is sufficient |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:08:36 PM | In some cases, you may find that the technology infrastructure is more than sufficient |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:09:45 PM | Yes Marica, you're right. But when you're actually doing the evlauation, you'll probably physically walk around and check out the technology. Some of it may be unused, disabled or in bioxes |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:10:07 PM | Are you ready to dive in with the hardware audit? |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:10:17 PM | So in the plan we should have an inventory checklist of the thinks that are needed to accomplish the goals, right? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:10:38 PM | The eadings and sample designs wil be very clear in helping you identify the areas of technology need |
| doug greenway | 11/20/2001 | 9:11:13 PM | Mark, Is there a particular form you would like us to use for the audit? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:11:16 PM | Mark, will we cover the software and web audits next week? |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/20/2001 | 9:11:31 PM | Good question Doug |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:11:34 PM | You can append the checklist. In you plan, you will have a specific question dealing with the technology infrastructure, some thing lie . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:12:17 PM | Is there sufficient technology to meet the learning goals of the chool/district/organization. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:12:40 PM | Does that question go in the with the other guiding questions or is it just a part of the hardware audit? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:12:40 PM | No Doug, one page should about do it for you. Now . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:13:17 PM | There are a couple of teams with the technology availability questions already a part of the plan. Kudo's to you, I think OLC is oneof them. Not much work left for you to do then. |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:13:32 PM | are we signing off |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:13:36 PM | Yes Bruce, in with the other guiding questions. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:13:37 PM | No Rose |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:13:45 PM | We jsut got started!!! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:13:59 PM | Technology audit, making sense? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:03 PM | bells are ringing, just wondering |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:09 PM | Yes |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:10 PM | Yes. Can we talk about today's eamil assignement? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:11 PM | yes |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:23 PM | got it... Website and software evaluation??? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:32 PM | In a bit Bruce, about the software and web site evaluation. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:49 PM | OK |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 9:14:52 PM | what website? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:15:03 PM | The same interest we have in hardware also translates to the softeare acquisition process and web site use. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:15:45 PM | Now, keep in mind that softwre and web site use might be more relevant to the k-12 environment than the higher education environemt. You determine the applicability. But . . . |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:16:38 PM | But these are audits similar to the approach of the hardware audit, right? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:16:39 PM | So Mark, the hardware, software and websit audit all have to be done Dec 6 |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:16:40 PM | The acquistion of software is sometime such an enigmatic thing, the principal calls up the technology coordinator and says we have $600 left over from our technology budget, let's use it before we loos it |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:17:14 PM | So, the tech coord. buys some software that she thinks comes in cute packages. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:17:35 PM | That approach to software acquisition is greatly flawed. So, . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:18:14 PM | I want toyou take a look at the software acquisition process in your environemnt and see if there is a systematic, and teacher influenced approach taken. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:18:28 PM | so is this more of a survey? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:18:59 PM | Ther are some criteria for good software. Are those criteria applied? Who is involved in the software acquisition process int he school? So they represent approapriate stakeholders? |
| Heidi Noem | 11/20/2001 | 9:18:59 PM | That was my question too Lisa. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 9:19:13 PM | How would we do that? Put in our plan to ask key people? Ask if it actually happens as spelled out in the tech plan for the school/district? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:19:24 PM | That's what's important here. You're looking at the process of software acquisition, not the quality of the software itself. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 9:19:24 PM | So Mark do we do this with the district we are working with as a team? Do I rely on Brian to tell us what's happening in Shannon Cty? |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:20:08 PM | Criteria 1 - Not produced by Microsoft! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:20:13 PM | Not a survey. But investigative. So Brican mght be one source, but hopefully not the only source. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:20:23 PM | ;-) cliff |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:20:45 PM | So we are actually executing this part of the evaluation paln? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 9:20:47 PM | Definitely look at documents from the district and the tech plan for their acquistion plans. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:21:10 PM | I would begin by seeing if there is a formal process for software acqusition that exists in the school, if there is, is it followed? Does it apply useful criteria, and does it invole all the right people? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:21:23 PM | Or, is it haphazard and done by chance? |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/20/2001 | 9:21:24 PM | Yes marcia. Listen to Brian. He is very smart. |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:21:26 PM | How do we acquire, not what or what quality the software acquisition may be? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/20/2001 | 9:21:52 PM | Mark said only partly listen to you Brian.:-) |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:21:54 PM | No Bruce. You are planning a review of the process, that is a part of your evaluation. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:22:10 PM | OK, I see now. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:22:57 PM | So we are sorting out what questions need to be asked? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:22:59 PM | Right Cliff, that review involves not only software content programs, (blaster, reader ready rabit, etc.) but productivity software as well. |
| Cindy Rall | 11/20/2001 | 9:23:34 PM | So if that plan exists in our tech plan and it is followed we steal it and put it into our eval plan? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:23:38 PM | If one person is making all these desicions about what apps to use and what programs to buy for the 4th graders to reinforce math. Something is drastically rong and needs to be remedied! |
| Rose Andersen | 11/20/2001 | 9:24:31 PM | no truer words were spoken Mark |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:24:42 PM | So it exists in your tech plan Cindy. Then next think to do is see if it is followed. So, include in your plan an audit of that process. Is it a good plan? Is it followed? WHow can it be improved? |
| Cindy Rall | 11/20/2001 | 9:25:05 PM | ok thanks |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 9:26:25 PM | Thanks, Mark. That helps to think of it as an audit of the acquisition process. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:27:01 PM | The same goes for using and choosing web sites gang. IS there a protocol for selecting web sites for student use? What are the standards? Are the standards explicit? Do they comply with the acceptable use policies of the school? Or, are they haphazard and left to the discretion fo the teacher? In which case, a school could be held liable if some maverick teacher though the Natzi credo was a quality document for teaching inalienable rights |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:27:03 PM | Are the software and web audits due Dec. 6 also? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:27:17 PM | All of it together, yes Lisa. |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:27:55 PM | So we aren't auditing the school website, but the sites used by the school? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:28:02 PM | Oops, I meant are the software and web audits due in the next few days with the hardware audits? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:28:06 PM | Now remember, your not inventing a software evaluation plan--you're evaluating the software evaluation plan. Soes it exist? IS it a good one? How can it be imporved? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/20/2001 | 9:28:42 PM | What if it doesn't exist? Do we make one that we would suggest be used with our plans? |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:28:56 PM | Good point Lisa... |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:29:01 PM | K-12 Data Center (SC-148)
820 N. Washington
Madison, SD 57042
It appears that whomever resides here makes the majority of software standards type decisions for sd.k12 - ie CITRIX |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:29:21 PM | You're auditin the web site selction process. When a teacher bookmarks a site and recommends it to students as a site for understanding civil war history, is there some protocol at the school that teacher uses to make sure that site is a quality resource. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:29:39 PM | Lots of schools are thinking about this, but they should. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:30:11 PM | Now for OLC and the Mitchell evaluation plan to take a look at what the support staff does, this may not be entirely relevant, you decide. |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:30:49 PM | http://cts.state.sd.us/documents/Content%20Filtering%20Report.doc State Mandate for acceptable websites for k12 |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:30:59 PM | But for the rest of the plans immersed more completely in the K-12 wnvironment. These things are key considerations. So make them a part of your evaluation of the technology program at your schools. |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/20/2001 | 9:31:41 PM | Thanks Cliff. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:32:10 PM | Cool Cliff, thanks. The question then, soes the school adopt htat plan, and to what length. Is the plan a quality tool, or is it too cumbersome to apply. Make sense? |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 9:32:35 PM | If not relevant to our plan, Mark, then how does that affect the completeness of our eval plan? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:33:02 PM | Okay, you're sitting there and saying Mark, Mark, when are we going to get this all done. And I say, it's not that demanding. Put the basics in your plan, that's sufficient. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:33:16 PM | Will not affect at all, if it doesn't belong Sandy. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/20/2001 | 9:33:25 PM | ok |
| cliff delong | 11/20/2001 | 9:33:30 PM | Could we chat with Mike Waldner re website evaluation next week? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:33:34 PM | Okay, sleep on that gang. We'll talk moe about it later. Okay? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/20/2001 | 9:33:48 PM | Why do you want to chat with Mike? |
| Bruce Long | 11/20/2001 | 9:34:20 PM | So Mark, I am wondering about the assignment you sent out today. Do you want us to powt our entire reaction on the web board at once or can we interact over pieces of the article? |