| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:06 PM | back again from the grave |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:12 PM | I think I'm back did I miss much in the last 10 min |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:18 PM | Alright, I'm back too. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:19 PM | Should i be accepting calls? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:24 PM | Sorry for the delay, tech difficulties |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:39 PM | could you explain them to us? |
| Travis Hohrman | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:39 PM | I'm back, too. |
| doug greenway | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:44 PM | hello everyone |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:45 PM | oh sure thats what they all say( just kidding) |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:46:45 PM | No Sandy, don't accept any calls, |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:01 PM | too late, but they're here. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:10 PM | My screen freezes. Any solutions? |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:10 PM | Christi wants in now |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:11 PM | hello....again |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:20 PM | I let her in. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:33 PM | like I tell my students, technology is magic, usually black evil magic |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:42 PM | buy more ram - install a fresh OS? |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:44 PM | and rose |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:44 PM | I'm back. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:49 PM | Unfortunately, too many experiences lead us to believe so Sherri. |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:56 PM | Do a Windows update? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:56 PM | Okay, where were we, |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:57 PM | why is mine ringing? |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 8:47:57 PM | hi, anyone? |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:07 PM | Hi Christi |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:11 PM | I've been kicked off three times?! |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:14 PM | brian still wants in' |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:23 PM | [Private] Cliff, did you get my message? |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:24 PM | lisa t did you get my message |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:29 PM | Things on the agenda tonight. Quiz, Evaluation questions, Stage 1 design, any thing else? |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:48 PM | [Private to Tammie Munsen] yeah - send me you email - I'll send you a transcript |
| Heidi Noem | 10/16/2001 | 8:48:51 PM | Sounds like a full load to me! :) |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:49:01 PM | Where should we be reading at this point? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:49:06 PM | Okay, thanks Heidi |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 8:49:29 PM | Will the suggested readings be part of the quiz, or just the required readings? |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:49:37 PM | Yes I will be in a conference Thurs and Fri is there any way I could take the test later or just wing it and learn how much I don't know and then ....... |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:49:39 PM | Is eveyone's phone ringing? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:49:52 PM | This weeks readings are on posted on the course Focusing the Evaluation page. These are readdings you're responsible for covering the last two weeks . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:50:12 PM | Just the required readings Tammie |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:50:24 PM | OK. thanks Mark. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:04 PM | Who has taken the quiz? Anyone? |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:15 PM | nope |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:17 PM | Not me. |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:22 PM | not me |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:27 PM | Cliff, did your new name and password work? |
| Brian O'Connor | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:28 PM | Not yet |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:28 PM | not me |
| Travis Hohrman | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:39 PM | not yet |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:51:58 PM | I just got back and saw the quiz assignment. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:52:16 PM | i haven't attempted it yet |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:52:25 PM | marcia wants in now and joanne. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:52:27 PM | Yes, I took it |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:52:37 PM | how did you do lisa |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:52:47 PM | Okay, let them in--they may not be able to see only your posts. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:52:49 PM | rose still wants in. This is driving me crazy. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:53:08 PM | Drum roll Lisa, How's it go? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:53:22 PM | Next week we'll talk more about the quiz. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:53:34 PM | So, this week, get over there and get it done. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:53:36 PM | I could have used more time. I'm a slow reader, and it has been a while since I read those articles. |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:53:44 PM | This is supposed to be a low-stress deal, right |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:53:56 PM | I think I jumped the gun and went to take the quiz before reviewing any of the material |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:12 PM | I didn't do too bad, but I would have liked more time than 20 minutes. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:25 PM | Right Bruce. I never do anything with te intention of giving you stress. So, consider every thing non stress. . . . . |
| Jennifer Nelson | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:28 PM | is it multiple choice? |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:29 PM | ah but i have procrastinators self induced stress |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:30 PM | hello |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:32 PM | Also, my clock on my computer was different than the one on the quiz, so I shorted myself some time |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:32 PM | rose, lisa, marcia, paulette--I answered. Mark said you might only see my posts. Can you say something? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:35 PM | Just took the quiz and decided either I hadn't read the material thoroughly enough or the questions were hard to understand. |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:38 PM | Got it. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:40 PM | Just get it done or You might fails (he he) . |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 8:54:49 PM | I am here Sandy |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 8:55:15 PM | Sandy I can read your posts. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:55:20 PM | I see you Sandy |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:55:34 PM | Marcia, I took a course in making clear questions ambiguous, how'd I do? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:55:54 PM | great, Mark |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 8:55:56 PM | Extremely well! You get an A :-) |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:55:59 PM | I can see Marcia and Paulette. |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:14 PM | I haven |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:15 PM | Good. my phone quit ringing. |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:37 PM | haven't taken the quiz yet |
| Jennifer Nelson | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:47 PM | Mark, I have been asked to accept calls in chats previous to tonights. Are we supposed to be accepting them? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:47 PM | Am I still in? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:48 PM | Okay joking aside. I want you to think closely about the question and the response it requires. My quizzes just are exercises in the obvious. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:56:58 PM | Lisa, still in. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:57:33 PM | But, I will review your performance and make adjustments. That is what beta testing is for, just do your best. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:57:46 PM | Okay, how is your work in the teams coming? |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:05 PM | we're getting there |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:08 PM | Brian, Rose and I met today while at Systems change and got a lot accomplished. |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:23 PM | how many questions do you expect us to create? 4-6? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:25 PM | so are we, althought scheduling has been troublesome |
| Heidi Noem | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:28 PM | Off to a slow start, but it's going well - we're all "physically" meeting tomorrow because everyone will be around. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:30 PM | Good Marcia to take advantage of those opportunities. |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:37 PM | Sandy N., Joanne,and I will meet Thursday. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:44 PM | We're going to work individuvally to refine and get back to one another before Friday. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 8:58:45 PM | Lisa, Sherri, and Paulette have a good start on their eval plan they think but if they send you a rough draft on wed could you critique it mark |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 8:59:11 PM | Christi, 5-6 questions is a good start. As we go, we'll add a couple of questions on hardware, software, etc. |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 8:59:33 PM | okay, good |
| Jennifer Nelson | 10/16/2001 | 9:00:01 PM | Heidi and I could not get connected last night using netmeeting on the phobos server, Was it down? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:00:05 PM | I may not have time to critique many designs before the stage one due date on Friday. Let me take a look at the evaluation plan then and give you my best shot at feedback then. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:00:23 PM | ok |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:00:41 PM | Can you clarify exactly what is due in the Stage 1 on Friday? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:00:57 PM | Class, I know that it's sometimes hard to coordinate a schedule, but this team element is critical. Be as flexible as you can and you're team will come together quickly. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:01:09 PM | We tried NetMeeting too, and had difficulty. MSN works great! |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:01:53 PM | Right Lisa, I now know why the kids like it |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:02:00 PM | We did Netmeeting and it was fine. |
| Jennifer Nelson | 10/16/2001 | 9:02:14 PM | we must have that blocked at our school. That wouldn't work last night either. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:02:24 PM | [Private to Mark Hawkes] Mark - Stacy is in a new house w/ no connection yet - Andy is sick tonight - we are in the final throes of our grant application agony - thanks for your comments on the evaluation plan - we are incorporating them at this time. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:02:40 PM | the pieces: a.Evaluation Purpose
b.Evaluation Audience
c.Description of the Evaluand, including
location of the school/district
type/age of students
technology infrastructure
professional development activities
technology goals
d.Guiding Evaluation Questions
e.Description of Evaluation Approach (Formative/Summative,
Internal/External, ...) |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:02:43 PM | MSN is blocked at school here too |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:02:47 PM | for the discription of evaluation approach we either choose formative or summative and also choose either external or internal correct? |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:03:01 PM | Thanks!! |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:03:13 PM | [Private] They emailed Cliff, but thanks for the note. Hope all goes well. |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:03:44 PM | Mark we are going to try DDN tomorrow |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:03:54 PM | Mark, would you define 'audience' for me, please |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:03:54 PM | Sherri, Formative and summative are actually complimentary and I would guess that you'll have parts of both. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 9:03:57 PM | We are doing both internal and external since Brian is within the School district we are evaluating and Rose and I are on the outside looking in. |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:04:16 PM | I can see how that works well Marcia |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:04:31 PM | But in the approach, I suspect you'll explain in what way you'll make the plan formative and summative, internel and external |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:04:45 PM | Good example Marcia |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:04:46 PM | Doug and I are outside, but we are doing an internal plan. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:05:32 PM | That's okay Bruce. If internal folks will be conducting all the evaluation activities, that still works. It is a plan. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:05:52 PM | Here's one thing to be careful about on the construction of the questions |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:05:54 PM | I found that as we worked we have refined and items are falling into place |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:06:06 PM | Make sure that they require more than a yes/no response. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:06:18 PM | Make them as open-ended as you can. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:06:28 PM | So, teachers and other staff would be internal, and community members/school board external? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:06:28 PM | Great Paulette! |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:06:58 PM | I don't understand. Why not have yes/no? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:07:10 PM | Lisa, I would say all those folks are internal to the evaluation process. Now . . . |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:07:12 PM | We changed our questions tonight from yes/no to more open ended |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:07:27 PM | We did too Lisa |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:07:35 PM | if you had someone from a local university on the evaluation team, or from TIE, that would incorporate external sources |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:08:03 PM | How about within our Coop? |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:08:04 PM | Yes, No questions may be easier to tabulate, but open-ended gives you more feedback, information you may not have considered. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:08:24 PM | Depends on their role, distant=external. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:08:24 PM | Co-op |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:08:33 PM | Doesn't that lead to more formative thean summative results Tammie? |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:08:59 PM | So a question like: Was all the hardware installed and functioning correctly? is not a good question... |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:09:26 PM | Your questions should elicit from the reader the sense that it will take a focused effort to find an answer. And answer which will help identify outcomes of the technology use |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:09:40 PM | could you give an example, Mark? |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:09:50 PM | Yes, please... |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:10:01 PM | Paulette asks: Mark would you qualify as external since you will be receiving them? |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:10:36 PM | if you are not a stakeholder are you external? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:10:51 PM | The answer is yes, external resources would be in play if I were working on the evlauation. But, as a class exersice or as an audience, no. |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:11:17 PM | Mark,The evaluation plans you have on your website are the questions they have good examples? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:11:21 PM | Example, how do staff perceive professional development experiences in technology use? |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:11:27 PM | Have your experiences with Net Meeting chats in CET 720 led you to believe that this method of asynchronous communication could be utilized in you class? Why or Why not? (just as an example of what not to ask) |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:11:41 PM | True Paulette--a good resoource. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:12:04 PM | synchronous/your |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:12:06 PM | I think those results would be formative, cliff, however, I think you will find the use of both types of questions in an evaluation, therefore, providing summative results as well. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:12:09 PM | Good point Cliff. (How subtle!!) |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:13:03 PM | Mark, please define 'audience' |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:13:16 PM | That could be true Sherri . . . but the internal/external issue is relevant to those conducting the evlauation, not audiences |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:13:42 PM | Stakeholders are the audiences? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:13:46 PM | Right? |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:13:49 PM | so the audience and the stakeholders are the same |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:13:59 PM | Audience is evceryone with an interest in the evlauation outcomes. An audience could even be other diestricts in the state, or the office of Educational Technology at the US Department of Ed. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:14:03 PM | Ours has a narrow focus. Is that what you had in mind, or did you want it to include a broader segment of technology usage? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:14:14 PM | A stakeholder is a little closer. Someone with a vested interest in the outcomes |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:14:31 PM | (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0) |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:14:32 PM | Our stakeholders are within our district/community |
| Heidi Noem | 10/16/2001 | 9:14:44 PM | Thanks for the clarity - I was getting confused with the two terms and how we've been using them. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:14:56 PM | but the audience could be anyone who reads the eval |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:04 PM | Stakeholders will always be audiences, but audiences will not always be stakeholders. It is a very fine line that I will not be picky about. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:12 PM | True Sherri |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:27 PM | Pretty much Lisa |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:30 PM | ok now i think i see the diff |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:39 PM | That distinction helps. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:42 PM | Does a stakeholder generally have a "vested" interest? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:15:46 PM | DECA could also be a stakeholder. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:16:05 PM | DECA is like Big Bro |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:16:22 PM | Not always, Cliff. I guess kids are necessarily vested, but we consider them stakeholders. |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:16:29 PM | They're always watching. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:17:41 PM | I would also suggest as an evaluation approach, tha some provision for flexibility be included |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:17:55 PM | What did Christi say - my Linux box got real interested in her comment? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 9:18:02 PM | such as? |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:18:12 PM | explain please mark |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:18:20 PM | yes, please |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:18:21 PM | [Private] nothing, Cliff |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:18:30 PM | New information, provided by stakeholders or others you're working to gather information from, may suggest a new direction of focus, or a new methodology to apply. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:18:55 PM | Clients, always like to the notion of flexibility incorporated into evaluation. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:19:06 PM | But if we're not acturally talking to stakeholders, we wouldn't know about that possibility. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:19:20 PM | That's one of the tennects of empowerment evlauation that TIE likes Marcia. |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:19:28 PM | we would talk to them as we evaluate, correct? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:19:53 PM | My guess is that if you're not talking to stakeholders, you're eliminating the most reliable data sources Sandy |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:20:28 PM | [Private] Christi was trying to open a file from Doug's Mac. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:20:31 PM | I thought you said last chat, we're not actually doing the eval, but just planning it? |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:20:32 PM | Aren't you always supposed to be changing and improving? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:20:33 PM | so as we go about our approach, make room for change after we collect information from our stakeholders? |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:01 PM | we could use them to set up the eval. for ex: the tech. coordinator of the school |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:20 PM | [Private to Bruce Long] My linux server was trying to convert a binhex file for somebody - doesn't mark shut off file sharing during these things? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:32 PM | Here we are client=those who pay for the evaluation; audience=those with an interest in the outcomes; stakeholders=those who not only have some stake in the outcomes, who are probably the target of the activity those implementing |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:36 PM | I agree with Paulette. As rapidly as technology innovations inundate us, what worked last year for the most part is obsolete this year. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:37 PM | Or do you mean plan in the eval. questions for the stakeholders? |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:44 PM | [Private] It was a file sent by email among our team. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:21:48 PM | Lisa, and during the collection of information |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:22:06 PM | right |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:22:16 PM | Here we are client=those who pay for the evaluation; audience=those with an interest in the outcomes; stakeholders=those who not only have some stake in the outcomes, who are probably the target of the activity those implementing |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:22:19 PM | That's right Sandi, plan in flexibility |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:22:35 PM | during these times we will need to change our course of action |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:22:45 PM | (possibly) |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:23:22 PM | Do we need a guiding question that covers change |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:23:38 PM | Whether you need to or not. Your statement of slexibility suggests you will be open to the idea if you have to. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:23:42 PM | client=$, audience=admin/board, stakeholders=students/teachers/parents ? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:24:13 PM | Sherri, |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:24:16 PM | oops |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:24:22 PM | admin and board are stakeholders, too. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:24:47 PM | Not really Paulette, change is not an attribute of the technology, its a function of the system. Though, you might asks questions like, how does, shared decision making in tech implementation change the governamce structure of the school |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:24:48 PM | but wouldn't the board also be clients because they have $ |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:25:20 PM | Yeah Cliff! |
| Paulette Mangold | 10/16/2001 | 9:25:27 PM | Ok, I think I see what you mean. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:26:06 PM | Slexibility, not sure where that word came from. No fruedian interpretations please. |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:27:13 PM | Am I missing someone's comments? I didn't see Slexibility anywhere. |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:27:27 PM | It was there, Bruce. |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:27:35 PM | Who said it? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 9:27:35 PM | You would be missing Mark's if you missed that word. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:27:37 PM | Well team, work on this front end peice. you're setting the tone for the evaluation and suggesting to folks that you're hearing from them what's important. |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:28:05 PM | Will we meet next week? |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:28:27 PM | Mark Hawkes
Whether you need to or not. Your statement of slexibility suggests you will be open to the idea if you have to.
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| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:28:45 PM | Maybe!!!! |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:28:52 PM | Yes, we're on for next week! |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:05 PM | Any other questions gang? |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:13 PM | Please - we don't get to torment any other instructors this week!!! |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:20 PM | [Private] Cliff, how did Dr. Coldeway's meeting go? |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:30 PM | Are you planning on joining our chats? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:36 PM | Okay, take your shots now becasue I'm not coming back for more! |
| doug greenway | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:37 PM | When do we send you the final product of stage one of the evaluation: |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:48 PM | [Private to Christi Harter] I dunno - did you get a transcript in your email yet? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:29:50 PM | This Friday Doug. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:10 PM | Thanks for the good info. |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:11 PM | [Private] no, I mean the meeting you hosted at 8pm tonight |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:31 PM | Bruce, I can try to join your chats if you tell me when they are. I'm more likely to come during the methodology sections. |
| Heidi Noem | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:32 PM | Yes, it will help out a lot with direction - we were struggling with that! |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:36 PM | [Private to Christi Harter] that's what I emailed out to you about an hour ago... |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:42 PM | Is this our final product of stage one? Or will we be able to make changes to it as we go? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:43 PM | Sure Marcia, thanks for the good questions. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:45 PM | [Private to Christi Harter] I thought |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:30:48 PM | That is fine I think we are ok for this portion |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:01 PM | [Private] thanks, perhaps it's in my DSU e-mail |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:01 PM | we are meeting 9PM in NM on THURSDAY |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:04 PM | at least this chat provides a little cheer with typos and the answers that become separated from their questions. |
| Travis Hohrman | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:06 PM | I think I understand things better now. Thanks! |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:09 PM | Let me look at your stage one's and see if you're as far off as you think you are. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:13 PM | [Private to Christi Harter] harterc@pluto.dsu.edu? |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:18 PM | Good Sandy! |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:20 PM | [Private] yes, thank you! |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:31:44 PM | That's the beauty of a text-based chat Sandy K |
| Tammie Munsen | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:04 PM | See you next week. Good Night All. |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:07 PM | CET720 on Thurs? or just you group Bruce? |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:15 PM | just us cliff |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:20 PM | my rrrrrrr key is wearing out |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:23 PM | Bruce Sandy and Tricia |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:27 PM | see you Thurs. tricia and bruce m |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:29 PM | Okay, final thoughts? |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:37 PM | love this class |
| doug greenway | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:48 PM | Good night everyone |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:49 PM | Just that I really dislike quizzes.:-) |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:53 PM | Thanks Cliff, you jsut like to laugh at my typo's |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 10/16/2001 | 9:32:53 PM | bye |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:04 PM | he's not recording a grade for the quiz, cliff |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:07 PM | I have more where that one came from Marcia!! |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:09 PM | I agree marcia |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:23 PM | I will take the test at 11:40 friday night ??? :-) |
| Brian O'Connor | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:27 PM | Good night all. Have a good week! |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:28 PM | Thanks, Mark |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:40 PM | night |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:46 PM | Bruce, you're call, I do belive that you stay up that late to do your homework though |
| Lisa Tolliver | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:50 PM | good night |
| Bruce Mastel | 10/16/2001 | 9:33:59 PM | night |
| Marcia Torgrude | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:02 PM | Talk soon to Brian and Rose. Good night everyone else. |
| Mark Hawkes | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:06 PM | Your welcome, take care, ciao |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:16 PM | Yes. I think Thurs. at 9 will work for me. Can you email Doug and let him know or should I? |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:21 PM | bye |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:26 PM | I will |
| Christi Harter | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:31 PM | thanks, Bruce |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:35 PM | Thanks. |
| Sherri Raschke | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:36 PM | good night |
| Bruce Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:38 PM | Night. |
| Travis Hohrman | 10/16/2001 | 9:34:42 PM | Bye! |
| Sandy Krage | 10/16/2001 | 9:35:19 PM | Oh, great, it just told me everyone I let in would be cut off. Are you all quitting? |
| Cliff De Long | 10/16/2001 | 9:36:00 PM | Good Night Sandy |