| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:34:33 PM | Hi Gang |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:34:42 PM | hi |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:34:42 PM | howdy |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:34:43 PM | Hello |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:34:52 PM | Did everyone survive the snow? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:00 PM | hello |
| Sandy Nightingale | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:00 PM | Hello |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:04 PM | We need more out west. |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:06 PM | All 18" of it! |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:19 PM | You can have it all out west! |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:20 PM | I WANT TO SKI!!! |
| Cheryl Jenner | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:20 PM | Hi, we only got about a foot, but that is enough |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:22 PM | Yeah, it really piled up! |
| Jennifer Nelson | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:38 PM | just got myself dug out before supper! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:39 PM | I'm completely pooped out from all the shoveling |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:54 PM | tractors do the job at my house |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:35:58 PM | But, Jenn, you had all day without school in session! |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:02 PM | Mark, I thought thats what graduate students are for |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:20 PM | neighbors at mine, but I had to dig a trail for the cats to have somewhere to wander. |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:25 PM | I did four driveways..I am ready for bed |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:26 PM | That is the bad thing about DE for Grad instructors andy. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:35 PM | Well, put, I was just going to tell Tricia I can give some serious extra credit if a tractor were to show up at my place |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:47 PM | Why am I accepting incoming calls? |
| Jennifer Nelson | 11/27/2001 | 8:36:50 PM | True, but I waited until the big tractor came and did the majority of the work in our parking lot |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:37:08 PM | Don't know Andy, |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 8:37:12 PM | well Mark I think my husband would be HAPPY to volunteer |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:37:42 PM | Well, I got through it this storm, but it was a rude wake-up to winter call if you ask me |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:01 PM | So Brian, did you ski? |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:04 PM | Give us a week and the snow will be ALL GONE! |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:09 PM | just think...winter doesn't officially start til dec 21ST! |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:18 PM | is that a promise, Andy? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:21 PM | The pile of snow in my front yard beside my driveway would make a great run! |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:27 PM | West river it is |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:35 PM | I fall down the hill a lot, but I trie really hard.
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| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:50 PM | Okay gang, . . . |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:38:56 PM | Try...that is "I try really hard." |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:39:19 PM | We're here to see if we can address any issues on the development of your evaluation plans, but first . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:39:30 PM | I enjoyed the comments you shared on the technology plan analysis paper |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:39:57 PM | The tone I heard, was that you think there are some real chinks in the rational and method of the paper, right? |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:05 PM | What comments will you make as a person on editorial board? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:09 PM | yes, too broad |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:26 PM | yes |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:30 PM | But some good thoughts though. |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:31 PM | looking for key words in a haystack? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:41 PM | Well, I say whether they should publish the paper or not, if not, I have to say why . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:40:54 PM | if it needs revised, I'm supposed to say where |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 8:41:04 PM | can it be generalized as is? |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:41:06 PM | publish after revision? |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:41:08 PM | the coded key words. I think, intrigued us. How did they do that, couldn't they have said more? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:41:36 PM | Yes, they can Cliff, the paper can either be accepted pending revisions, or not accepted but encouraged to submit agian,. . . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:42:09 PM | the latter they have to wait again to go through the review process, the former they don't, it goes right in and is schedule for the next volume of the journal |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:42:29 PM | validity and replicability exist - therefore? |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:42:32 PM | My question is: Were the big seven arbitrary or do they really exist in some national format?
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| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:42:37 PM | But, if there is nothing out there studying the state plans as a whole, it's a good one to revise and work on. The literature review said in 2000 they found little. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:43:00 PM | Yes Sandy, I believe they could have said more about the methodology, |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 8:43:31 PM | How many reviewers are there for this one article? |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 8:43:33 PM | Good question Brian |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:43:44 PM | my question, too, Brian. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:43:52 PM | Sandy, I agree, but state technology plans are not where to find the best evaluation information or other information out there. |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:44:28 PM | But if it doesn't start at the state level. . . |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 8:44:32 PM | And definitelynot the best place to find out what is really happening out there. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:44:36 PM | Arbitrary Brian. There are standards that claim to be nationally adopted, but not all stakeholders adhere to htem. But, there were reasonable. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:44:46 PM | Three reviewers per article Lisa |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:44:48 PM | It starts at the national level - trickle down |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:45:04 PM | The question is, how did you think this was relevant to evaluation? |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:45:09 PM | not always Cliff |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:45:15 PM | is it fair to evaluate states on a whole as they did? |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 8:45:34 PM | agreed christi...one place for all the facts? |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 8:45:37 PM | I think that it is a good study if you just look at it as "What drives a tech plan," but It isn't suppose to be much more than that anyway is it? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:45:58 PM | I believe it's flawed at some level to look at state plans and say they have the lions share of the management responsibility for technology development in states |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:46:13 PM | An evaluation of state plans, in research format |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:46:36 PM | So many others play a role in building the technology capacity, philanthropies, foundations, corporations |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:46:48 PM | It could be that Andy |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:46:49 PM | However, NCA would consider them to be the mission - or guiding document for the state. |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:46:51 PM | at the state level, too? |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:46:56 PM | at the k12 level Mark? |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 8:47:26 PM | I think that looking at the state plans is ok but there needs to be a follow-up on whether the plans were actually implemented at their local levels |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:47:28 PM | Probably Cliff, that's the problem. |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 8:47:32 PM | I felt the article was more of a skimmed view or eval versus and indepth true evalualtion of the plans |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:47:33 PM | Yup Christi and Andy |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 8:48:01 PM | I agree Paulette....a plan is one thing what is done with it is another....and probably another study entirely |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:48:02 PM | Yes Tricia, it didn't systematically look at the evaluation. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:48:20 PM | I wondered that, Mark, as I read it--how it was relevant to evaluation. At first I despaired of having any comments at all. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:48:44 PM | That's true Paulette, we always want to know does the implementation follow the blueprint. The issue is in the adequcy of the blue print |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:49:06 PM | They only looked for key phrases or words, correct? They really didn't look at the technology plans. |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:49:29 PM | Plus, looked for only the phrases they wanted to look at. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:49:29 PM | The main point it, I think the article underestimates technology development by looking at state plans only as the source. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:49:52 PM | I imagine they did a pretty thorough read. Then a key word seaerch |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:49:54 PM | rather than as a hoop? |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:49:57 PM | Counterpoint. How many thousands then do you look at? |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:08 PM | We couldn't even tell from the study if the plans included evaluation. |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:10 PM | Definitely Mark. What is happening in the grassroots may not be reflected at the state level. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:19 PM | Rather than as a hoop ;-) |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:25 PM | and versa visa Paulette |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:33 PM | Many times Right Andy |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:37 PM | Okay, thanks for tackling that task |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:38 PM | It is like evaluating education by just interviewing administration |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:54 PM | Exactly Cindy
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| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:54 PM | Good analogy Cindy |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 8:50:57 PM | or the governor |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:06 PM | ohhhh |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:11 PM | YIKES-governor |
| Tammie Munsen | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:13 PM | nice point |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:23 PM | Okay, how are you plans coming? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:38 PM | we're getting there |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:42 PM | we are getting there |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:43 PM | Agreed. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:48 PM | Rose, Brian and I are plugging away on them. |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 8:51:52 PM | we are near complete with our hardware audit |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:52:05 PM | Yea! Bruce |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:52:13 PM | Lots of you are working hard, I know. I appreciate the effort it taks to do so. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:52:32 PM | A point to make on the software and web site evaluation . . . . |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 8:52:42 PM | Thank God Rose and Brian had a snow day yesterday.:-) |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:53:15 PM | Remeber you are attempting to determine through your evaluation, if a process is in place to systematically acquire hardware. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:53:57 PM | At some point, yes, a software or web site evlauation form will be used. But there are other things to look for to see if an appropriate process is observed . . . |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 8:54:16 PM | Won't that be a little different in our situation where we are evaluating a grant program? |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 8:54:20 PM | How is that determined? By checking to see if it's in the tech plan? Interviewing the business manager? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:54:24 PM | For example, stakeholder involvement, links to appropraite standards, etc. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:55:08 PM | Yeah, by checking the technology plan, interviewing the tech coord. or teachers to see if thay have had any say in the purchase and use of technology |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 8:55:22 PM | E.g The grant requires specific acquisitions. Have they been done? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:55:47 PM | Yes, Bruce, you are absolutely right. And it will be a little bit different for the OLC gang and the after school program Christi is evaluating . . |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:56:23 PM | So, you have to determine the relevance of these peices in your evaluation. So, include these types of issues in your evaluation where it makes sense |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:56:24 PM | it's very straight forward for us, it seems |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:56:36 PM | Yes but in the grant programs dont you have to prove sustainability and so further acquisition will be needed in the future? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:56:52 PM | Right Bruce |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:57:03 PM | Sustainability can be defined many ways |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:57:27 PM | And, not always have to be linked to software or eb site use. |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:57:44 PM | and the grant doesn't tie into hardware when it comes to sustainability |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:57:53 PM | or software or websites |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:10 PM | Okay, that's my tip of the software/web site evaluation thing. Any questions in general? |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:11 PM | I see |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:23 PM | most of ours do |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:40 PM | Christi
Are you working on the 21st cent. grant after school program? |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:45 PM | [Private to stacy phelps] slackinghereandthereandeverywhere - lurker |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:45 PM | yes |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:58:46 PM | Usually not Christi, some exceptions with renewable funding sources |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 8:59:08 PM | exactly, Mark, year to year, it does, I was thinking after the final year... |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 8:59:21 PM | OLC gang, I see you in back of the class talking to each other--things coming together for you? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 8:59:23 PM | Have you visited with Dorene Gosmire and gotten any documents from her that might help you. |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:59:42 PM | [Private to stacy phelps] slackinghereandthereandeverywhere |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 8:59:52 PM | [Private to stacy phelps] slackinghereandthereandeverywhere |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:00:00 PM | she's very busy...and no, we have the grant's format |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:00:01 PM | slackinghereandthereandeverywhere |
| stacy phelps | 11/27/2001 | 9:00:22 PM | [Private] no just reading and trying to get caught up and see if i should say something but i will only read |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:00:35 PM | define together. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:00:37 PM | I know Mary Baumeister of BHSSC has her info. in very organized format for this side of the state and might be able to give you some info. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:00:48 PM | Christi, during the trhree years that the funding is provided, the program funders can leverage performance indicators the suggest sustainability is growing, after the money stops, they have no leverage, but of course we hope the program has some life. |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:01:23 PM | exactly, and the possiblity for renewal, either federally or statewise |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:01:35 PM | All peices of the evaluation in place and amazingly coherent, I couldn;t expect anything less from you! |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:01:41 PM | we deal w/ that continually for our annual reports |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:02:12 PM | And evaluation data is critical in those annual reports. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:02:39 PM | Every grant at TIE has an evaluation team constantly evaluating the work being done. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:02:40 PM | Do you think all the grants will be funded next year, with all the $$$ going for the Afghan war? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:02:42 PM | we have specific evaluators that do that work for us |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:02:50 PM | How about the infamous White Lake Three, how's things going for you? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:03:48 PM | Good question Sandy, but I believe that will be a part of the stimulus plan. Although te PTS program and lots of the Technology Challenge Grant programs are ending |
| Tammie Munsen | 11/27/2001 | 9:03:55 PM | We are going to work on it again tomorrow night. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:04:32 PM | Good |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:04:44 PM | PTS??? I meant PT3 |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:01 PM | I was curious but afraid to ask what PTS was |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:15 PM | or PT3 |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:17 PM | Hi Guys, I was working on an assignment and lost track of time, but I'm here |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:27 PM | Did I miss much of anything |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:40 PM | Everything:-) |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:43 PM | We were just plotting to take over the world, Rose |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:49 PM | Don't blame you Marcia, but I would never say anything embarass us, well, maybe a few of us |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:05:56 PM | That is good what can i do to help |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:08 PM | Why do you think that this will be part of the Economic Stimulas Plan form a bipartisan wartime congress, Mark? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:14 PM | Okay, so Rose brings the donuts next time--is that where we ended up? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:24 PM | good |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:28 PM | yes...and cake |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:40 PM | German Chocolate |
| Tammie Munsen | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:47 PM | I have a burning question, What will the final consist of? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:54 PM | That's a concession the Repubs will have to make as minority party. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:06:59 PM | Do we really need a final? |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:07 PM | Good point Sandy |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:12 PM | I was wondering the same thing Tammie |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:13 PM | Tax cuts won't do it, tried that once, fell on it's face. |
| Tammie Munsen | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:18 PM | Personally, I thought we would waive it! |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:22 PM | Doug just emailed me and he can't get in...he will catch up from Trician and I wed.... |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:26 PM | I don't think we need a final |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:30 PM | Good point Tammie |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:34 PM | Only an opinion, any others? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:35 PM | me either |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:39 PM | Good point Andy |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:53 PM | I agree with Andy |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:54 PM | I believe we are showing what we have learned by our fantastic final project |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:56 PM | I would prefer to be assessed with a pena and paper proctored examination book - thank you very much |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:58 PM | Good point...er..ah..well |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:07:59 PM | Hey, I've agonized over this final to make it agonizing as I can! |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:01 PM | right, Paulette |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:05 PM | Let's do another mandatory web board discussion. that was fun. |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:24 PM | thats not fair mark make it easyu |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:38 PM | Is anything like your quiz was? If so, please don't. :-) |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:43 PM | keep it to yourself Mark |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:46 PM | Question 1: Dr. Hawkes is Cool A: True B: True |
| Tammie Munsen | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:46 PM | and the answer is... |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:52 PM | say did Mark did you ever say anything about the software/website eval yet?? |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:52 PM | Right, Marcia. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:52 PM | good idea Bruce L. |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:52 PM | Agreed Marcia |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:57 PM | True |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 9:08:57 PM | A. true |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:05 PM | I like that question Bruce I like Paulette;s answer, |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:08 PM | now you're thinking bruce...I can kiss up with the best of them!! |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:19 PM | But, I've been uncool too and enjoyed that |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:32 PM | The final part essay, part MC liek the midterm |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:32 PM | call it power |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:34 PM | masochism in its many and varied forms... |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:38 PM | just try not to be uncool with the final |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:09:43 PM | You've amoked before |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:06 PM | The midterm was waved, so since the final is like it... |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:06 PM | I've forgotten the mid-term, it was so long ago. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:21 PM | no wonder I forgot. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:24 PM | I'll try, I'll give you more information on the evaluation plan critique and the final soon. |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:48 PM | Aren't we learning student centered learning? |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:52 PM | Will we get more feedback on our projects before they ar edue? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:10:53 PM | Not a logical syllylogism??? |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:11:04 PM | If then else |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:11:05 PM | Once we complete the web eval. is that it for the Eval. plan? Then we critique others? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:11:31 PM | If you want it Bruce, email me and ask me specific questions. I'm more than happy to give feedback |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:11:31 PM | We critique the other's plans? |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:11:39 PM | Mark, is there going to be a time limit on the final like there was with the midterm? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:12:04 PM | No Sandy, we will not be doing a peer critique, you will be critiquing and actual plan |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 9:12:11 PM | I don't do well on time limits |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:12:19 PM | Yes, Lisa |
| Sandy Nightingale | 11/27/2001 | 9:12:21 PM | I was wondering that, too, Lisa. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:12:37 PM | Then I'll have to make it a reasonable limit |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:12:38 PM | [Private to Andy Conrad] I don't do well on drugs... |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:00 PM | Could you please give us more time for those of us who are slow readers, or need to read the question a couple of times to digest it? |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:07 PM | [Private] on or off? |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:14 PM | Agreed Lisa |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:20 PM | that sound s like a winner lisa |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:26 PM | Are you going to give us criteria for eval. the plan or will be using what we developed? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:30 PM | Marcia, the web eval ought to be about the last peice you integrate into your plan. Then you look it over and make sure there's continuity and reason to the plan, and submit it by 12/6 |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:13:51 PM | [Private to Andy Conrad] 2 true - |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:14:14 PM | Thanks Mark. We're very close as of yesterday with your input and snow day. |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:14:34 PM | Continuity...reason? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:14:39 PM | I don't give you specific criteria, but the criteria are fairly accessible. Get the evaluation plans off your desk and the other projects will come together. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:15:33 PM | from question to question, and data collection procedures to analysis procedures Brian, is there a logical order to the parts and do they realte to each other . . . continuity |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:15:35 PM | is the evaluation plans going to be on line like for LT last spring |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:16:14 PM | You mean submitting your own evaluation plans Rose, send them electronically |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:17:08 PM | I know lots of you are busy riht now working with your teams, but here's your last chance to answer a question before I send you to the principals office |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:17:34 PM | when will we receive plans for critique... |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:18:18 PM | the evaluation plan that we evaluate for one of our assignments, will that be on line? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:18:19 PM | Probably right arounf Dec. 6-7. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:18:27 PM | Yes Rose. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:19:36 PM | Sometimes I get really confused. We say evaluation so many times in one sentence. I forget what we're evaluating.:-) |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:19:44 PM | People are working with their teams? I thought we had all fallen asleep. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:19:45 PM | I haven't heard from a few of you tonight. Joanne, Cheryl, Stacy, Sandy N, I assume everything is coming up roses? |
| stacy phelps | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:22 PM | oh just reading and absorbing. |
| Joanne Ustad | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:27 PM | Just need some processing time |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:33 PM | We're doing great Mark, and yes we're working on MSN at the same time tonight. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:36 PM | Yeah Sandy, they think that just becasue I'm not looking that I don't know their totally immersed in another side discussion--haa, I'll show them!! |
| stacy phelps | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:41 PM | it is difficult to gage where the conversation is at when you come into these chats late |
| Cheryl Jenner | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:46 PM | Everything is just great - I am enjoying watching everyone else chat |
| Sandy Nightingale | 11/27/2001 | 9:20:53 PM | We're working on our hardware audit tomorrow night. We already have parts of it finished. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:21:06 PM | I understand Stacy, it gets to be a craft to assess and jump in. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:21:46 PM | As Tammie saidm Sandy, just wanted to make sure you weren't over taxed, over stressed, and underpaid, (too badly anyway) |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:21:50 PM | what are the finalized course offerings for next semester? |
| Cheryl Jenner | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:06 PM | We have been working in our team but my school has had some technical problems - DDN is down and the weather has stopped them from coming and fixing it |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:14 PM | cet 740 and Thompsons right? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:17 PM | and how can we know for sure what is offered this summer? |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:21 PM | lt 731 |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:34 PM | also is June for sure this ummer |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:45 PM | For all of you guys Cliff, you should be signed up for LT 731 Multimedia, with Dawn Hamilton at USD |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:22:47 PM | lt731 spring or fall BruceM |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:23:10 PM | Mark could you give us a brief guideline here about the courses offered and the delivery method for each? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:23:12 PM | spring, Rose |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:23:15 PM | Then, if you want, you can take CET 740 or CET 769 or, |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:23:34 PM | Mark Brian O came into the cohort late and hasn't been informed about the portfolio work or anything. Could you give him some info. to catch him up? |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:23:44 PM | Is an email to her good enought///I did that |
| Cheryl Jenner | 11/27/2001 | 9:23:55 PM | Is the registration on line already and when is the dead line for sighning up |
| Tricia Neugebauer | 11/27/2001 | 9:24:01 PM | is cet 740 the online course and cet 769 the video course? |
| Jennifer Nelson | 11/27/2001 | 9:24:09 PM | she will send you info in the mail if you give her an email |
| Brian O'Connor | 11/27/2001 | 9:24:14 PM | Yes, cohort...late...info please. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:24:34 PM | CET 740, Systems theory in distributed education (distance education) is entirely online. CET 769, Distance Education for adult learning, is DDN. Contact Dan if you want to get in on that bridge, We've allready planned links to Mitchell and Winner. |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:24:56 PM | can you tell us about summer courses? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:03 PM | planning ahead... |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:05 PM | Personally, I like staying home - I don't want to drive anywhere. Can Ray do his course via correspondence? |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:09 PM | Yes Bruce M. dawn.hamilton@dsu.edu--and tell Doug I'm sorry he got looked out. |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:20 PM | and when summer courses will be! |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:30 PM | My goodness, I'm just having problems getting through these classes. Can't think that far ahead yet. |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:42 PM | No Cliff, there are some hands on that is a parto fhte course. But we are going to support his travel to the west side 2-3 thimes through te semester. |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:25:53 PM | cool |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:07 PM | Glad you brought that up. |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:21 PM | do we need to go east? |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:23 PM | Wonderfu! I worried about getting to the classes even though I'm over there often for my work. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:30 PM | Is Dan's class 6:30 - 9:30 on Tuesdays? |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:35 PM | I was prompted by an anonymous email from a classmate |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:38 PM | THere will be other program details to address, but I'll get that information to you later as soon as I have some more definition |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:26:51 PM | I think that sounds right Lisa, check with him though for sure. |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:14 PM | Cute Cliff |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:21 PM | Okay, should we call it a night? |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:30 PM | retain anonymity! |
| Bruce Mastel | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:31 PM | sleeeeep yessss |
| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:35 PM | my brain already has. |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:35 PM | Deadline to register for next semester? |
| Christi Harter | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:36 PM | any info. on sumemr courses? |
| Rose Andersen | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:36 PM | sound good to me |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:41 PM | I need to pack for Virginia. See you all in a few days. |
| Joanne Ustad | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:42 PM | 7-9:45 is what I have Llisa |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:46 PM | Just waht I was thinking Bruce! |
| Joanne Ustad | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:51 PM | for Dan's DDN tuesday class |
| Andy Conrad | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:51 PM | NIGHT |
| Lisa Tolliver | 11/27/2001 | 9:27:57 PM | Thanks Joanne |
| Bruce Long | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:00 PM | a night |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:05 PM | Safe trip Marcia |
| cliff delong | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:05 PM | good night Mark |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:15 PM | Thanks Paulette |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:15 PM | Travel well Marica, good night all. |
| Paulette Mangold | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:27 PM | good night |
| Tammie Munsen | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:32 PM | good night |
| Marcia Torgrude | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | Thanks Mark
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| Sandy Krage | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | night |
| Cheryl Jenner | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | b6 |
| Cindy Rall | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | bye |
| Joanne Ustad | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | good night |
| Sandy Nightingale | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:38 PM | Good night! |
| Cheryl Jenner | 11/27/2001 | 9:28:48 PM | good night |
| Mark Hawkes | 11/27/2001 | 9:29:00 PM | Andy, I will have a summer schedule to you very soon, it has been planned, it has to be a pproved by the Academic VP, she has a lot of thinks on her plate, I'll nudge her soon. |